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Margaret Creel, historian and professor of African-American Studies at University of California, Los Angeles, describes the relationship between two American heroes--Presidents Washington and Lincoln-- to slavery and equality with KPFK's Clare Spark. 25 minutes of presentation, then discussion and phone calls from the audience. Produced by Clare Spark for Newswatch. This program elicited much listener response and requests for transcript and tapes. Starts with Mary Lou Williams' "Prelude to Prism." Included in the call-ins: a caller complains about Amos & Andy and other old radio played on KPFK. Spark agrees that this material must be presented within context.

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