Ella Winter, author, foreign correspondent, world traveler, interviewed in studio by Elsa Knight Thompson concerning her life, views on society, government, communications. Ella was born in Australia, grew up in England, attended London School of Economics, and was married to two famous husbands: Lincoln Steffens and Donald Ogden Stewart. Her travels and observations about the Soviet Union and China are given here and in her autobiography, "And Not to Yield." Winter tells Thompson that "the pristine purity of revolutions" soon withers away, and the state with its bureaucratic complex necessary to a planned economy, contrary to Marxist dogma, is reinforced. Humans, with the keen edge of starvation withdrawn and enjoying an unaccustomed quantity of consumer goods and gadgets, revert to an anti-social state of mind which is a problem common to the USA as well as the socialist countries.